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Ken Shores
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| 08/10/2008 1:13 PM |
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With the state of technology the way that it is, isn't the rule preventing the use of UPS devices getting to be out dated? It is getting to the point of a safety issue. I guess that the rule was originally intended to prevent giving an unfair advantage to those that could afford the "high tech" devices. However it is now getting to the point where just about anyone can afford the gps, a lap top, and navigational software. I guess the next step will be that the boats will be run by RC. (I don't think so because we get on the boats because we love the feel of the mist and wind in our faces, and love the water surging over the gunwales.)
I am curious to read what the responses will be.
Respectfully yours,
Ken Shores
Litora Caelia
USA 2273
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Tim Winger
Posts:49
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| 09/05/2008 4:07 PM |
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| I agree that the prohibition on GPS devices should be abandoned for many of the same reasons offered by Ken Shore. In addition, with the small size of GPS units and their integration into watches and phones, enforcement becomes a problem. The only question that needs addressed is how far do we go. Do we open it up for any avaiable technology? Most of the usable stuff costs less than a new genoa. Do we put a cost limit on it? |
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Pete Ramsdale
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| 09/09/2008 9:47 PM |
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Delete 8.1.5, and modify 6.1.9 to read
“The use of commercially available sensors or transducers providing data feeds relating to hull speed, water depth, time, water temperature, atmospheric pressure, and global position, and the ability to measure, record, calculate and display data derived from such sensors.”
Reason: It is becoming difficult to take aboard equipment that does not do this (cell phones, cameras, watches and shoes carry GPS today) – we are limiting ourselves to dinghy or classic boat equipment. Electronics and the data do not make the top sailors any better – they already sail the right way at full speed; they may help club sailors improve (e.g. noting speed difference between jib and genoa). Keep wind instrumentation off the boats, but the rest – why not? Reviewing boat track after racing can be a useful tool to see whether tactical calls were good or not – learning tool.
With respect,
Pete
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Lorne Chapman
Posts:150
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| 09/30/2008 1:52 PM |
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Re the use of Loran, GPS or similar position fixing devices - there is also a discussion on the Racing Tools & Techniques forum - worth a look.
Re the safety issue - one aspect is while racing - on closed courses I think we have responsible race officers that are not going to set courses over hazards. For boats that sail in "long distance" or shore races - a legitimate issue - but that's what charts are for. As far as getting lost, or home in limited visibility there is absolutely no reason why you can't carry a GPS unit in your gear bag and use it if you have to.
Loran is a dead issue.
There are lots of other uses for GPS units - see www.kattack.com - something that was used at the 2008 NAs and is in use by some fleets. Good fun.
The class is actively working on this issue - and as Tim says above - where do we position on the spectrum of what's available? |
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