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Lorne Chapman
Posts:149
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| 06/27/2006 1:15 AM |
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PROPOSAL:
Delete and mark “Not in Use”
CURRENT POSITION:
Equipment capable of disconnecting and severing standing rigging.
REASON:
1) To simplify the Rules
COMMENTS:
Removing a basic safety item from the Rules is unwise and provides no benefit to the class.
The Technical Committee, Designer & Copyright Holder recommend against this proposal.
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Chris McLaughlin
Posts:38
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| 07/02/2006 5:17 PM |
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How silly is this one. Have has anyone ever tried to cut rigging wire with a junior hacksaw?
I have a felco cutter but they are a very expensive alternative. When the mast is down its the easiest thing in the world to sever the rigging by untwisting the turnbuckles.
I think most Europeans would junk this requirement.
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David Ellis
Posts:5
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| 07/11/2006 11:45 AM |
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| I agree with Chris. In fact the removal is quicker than he says, as you simply have to remove the split rings holding the turnbuckles in place. So does a simple Leatherman actually fulfil the current rule?? |
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Andy McLelland
Posts:8
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| 07/11/2006 1:30 PM |
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| Severing rigging is impossible with a hacksaw. Even expenssive cutters are hard to use. The only way to remove the rig is to drop out the pins. faster, cleaner, easier and actually feesable!! |
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Gianpietro Pollesel
Posts:4
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| 07/19/2006 7:36 PM |
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No change this rules because we could have a serious safety problem.
A simply little hacksaw could be cover the rule and to be the problem solving when accour. |
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Chris McLaughlin
Posts:38
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| 07/21/2006 11:05 AM |
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| How can removing four split rings and pins be harder than cutting through rigging wire with a hacksaw... |
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Bruce Hubble
Posts:18
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| 08/01/2006 10:55 AM |
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Having lost a rig on a 33 ft IOR boat, I would highly recommend a hacksaw as a minimum. Why? Because it is a rig that is too heavy to manipulate with crew to throw over the side by disconnect methods. Also, because the 33 footer sailed in open water on long distance courses.
A J24 is a total different picture. It is sailed on typically one mile W/L courses (on closed waters) with support boats near by. Also, the rig is light enough to pull 7 pins and toss the rig. However, that is not likely in any event. Pull the scrap back on deck and the problem is solved. A knife to cut halyards is better mandatory equipment if we are making safety an issue.
AND, we get to toss the rusty thing off the boat. |
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Rodger Voss
Posts:36
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| 08/01/2006 6:46 PM |
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| My response is on behalf of 12 of the 23 polled Lake George - Fleet 24 members. The majority response is to keep the rule. Discussion: The tool to use is still left to the individual's discretion, but better to have it than not. Removing pins seems the easiest but in distress when rigging is twisted and bent and maybe under water, cutting may be the only way. |
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